Showing posts with label elections 2012. Show all posts
Showing posts with label elections 2012. Show all posts
Thursday, November 29, 2012
Thursday, November 8, 2012
Nice summary of elections 2012 by Rachel Maddow
... start at 9:20 but from 12:50 it is Bullshit Mountain at its best - enjoy!
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Elections in Florida ...
The interesting thing is that if you make voting so hard to vote on the election day, your people will have hard time too! So they may have actually hurt themselves ...
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http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/11/08/florida-s-messy-democracy.html
http://news.yahoo.com/election-over-final-florida-results-still-not-082709587.html
http://www.ibtimes.com/florida-election-results-delay-no-accident-865326
BY Jeremy B. White | November 08 2012 1:44 PM
He paused for effect. “By the way, we have to fix that.”
It’s easy to laugh at Florida’s seemingly terminal inability to conduct a smooth election. But make no mistake: The delays, and the battles over absentee and provisional ballots, do not occur by accident. President Obama, whose Justice Department was kept busy this year challenging a raft of new state laws making it more difficult to vote, knows it.
Florida has attributed the difficulties this year to a late surge of more than 50,000 absentee ballots. But critics say that Florida's new voting law also played a role.
That law, one of the toughest and most controversial in the nation, was one of many new voting restrictions put in place since 2010 by almost invariably Republican state legislatures. A federal judge blocked the Florida law's restrictions on voter registration in August, calling the new rules “harsh and impractical.”
Left in place was a provision cutting back the number of early voting days from 14 to eight, contributing to long waits -- as much as 6 or 7 hours in Miami Dade County and 3 to 4 hours elsewhere -- that Florida League of Women Voters President Deirdre Macnab called “unacceptable delays, worse than many third world countries.”
Voters in Florida also had to contend with the longest ballot in state history, a document that spans multiple pages. The new law also requires voters who move to a different county to obtain provisional ballots, which take longer to process.
The silver lining is that booming turnout has also contributed to lengthy lines. But Macnab noted that potential voters who had to work or care for their children were likely deterred by the long wait.
“Those people were really unfairly treated by these laws,” Macnab said.
That this election was decided without Florida is both a testament to the country’s shifting demographic map and a relief to anyone nervous about a disaster reminiscent of 2000. There is another parallel, though: The 2000 election was marred by revelations that a private firm tasked with removing ineligible felons from Florida’s voting rolls mistakenly disenfranchised legitimate voters.
Critics saw echoes of that in Florida Gov. Rick Scott’s push to purge ineligible noncitizens from the rolls. Sen. Ben Nelson, a Democrat, drew a comparison between the two in a letter to Scott and warned that “attempts to purge the voter roll so soon after signing one of the nation’s most controversial voting laws raises concern, especially among young and minority voters.”
County election supervisors balked when they received preliminary lists of ineligible voters that were riddled with errors. Legitimate voters identified as ineligible had become naturalized citizens, or were mistaken for someone else with a similar name. Florida suspended the purge until it got access to a federal database; ultimately, the number of names shrank from an ostensible 180,000 to around 200.
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/09/rick-scott-early-voting_n_2101566.html?1352483868
Florida Gov. Rick Scott (R) is standing by his decision not
to extend early voting hours, despite the fact that some voters said
they waited as long as nine hours to cast a ballot.
"Well I'm very comfortable that the right thing happened," he told WKMG Orlando while speaking with reporters on Thursday night. "We had 4.4 million people vote."
The WXMG reporter tried to follow up again and ask whether hours should have been extended, but a member of Scott's staff appeared to end the press conference. When Scott was asked again while walking with reporters, he repeated his answer.
A major reason for Florida's chaotic early voting process was that last year, the state's GOP-controlled legislature shortened early voting days from 14 to eight. Long lines were reported across the state, with one polling place closing as late as 1 a.m. Sunday morning. In a sudden move, the Miami-Dade elections department allowed voters to cast in-person absentee ballots on Sunday afternoon, but closed temporarily because it could not meet demand.
Former Gov. Charlie Crist, a Republican-turned-independent, accused Scott of "voter suppression" for refusing to extend early voting hours, and said Scott should have extended hours like he did in 2008 when he was governor.
Things weren't any better on Election Day, as people waited in lines for up to six hours in Miami-Dade County. Voting ended in the county at around 1:30 a.m. Wednesday.
As of Friday afternoon, Florida still has not been called for President Barack Obama or Mitt Romney, though Obama has a slight lead in votes. Romney conceded the state on Thursday.
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http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/11/08/florida-s-messy-democracy.html
http://news.yahoo.com/election-over-final-florida-results-still-not-082709587.html
http://www.ibtimes.com/florida-election-results-delay-no-accident-865326
BY Jeremy B. White | November 08 2012 1:44 PM
Messy elections in Florida have a groan-inducing familiarity to
them at this point. This year’s unfolding debacle even got an allusion
-- and a roaring response -- in President Obama’s victory speech on
Election Night.
“I want to thank every American who participated in this election, whether you voted for the very first time or waited in line for a very long time,” Obama said, his second term assured but Florida’s outcome still uncertain.
“I want to thank every American who participated in this election, whether you voted for the very first time or waited in line for a very long time,” Obama said, his second term assured but Florida’s outcome still uncertain.
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It’s easy to laugh at Florida’s seemingly terminal inability to conduct a smooth election. But make no mistake: The delays, and the battles over absentee and provisional ballots, do not occur by accident. President Obama, whose Justice Department was kept busy this year challenging a raft of new state laws making it more difficult to vote, knows it.
Florida has attributed the difficulties this year to a late surge of more than 50,000 absentee ballots. But critics say that Florida's new voting law also played a role.
That law, one of the toughest and most controversial in the nation, was one of many new voting restrictions put in place since 2010 by almost invariably Republican state legislatures. A federal judge blocked the Florida law's restrictions on voter registration in August, calling the new rules “harsh and impractical.”
Left in place was a provision cutting back the number of early voting days from 14 to eight, contributing to long waits -- as much as 6 or 7 hours in Miami Dade County and 3 to 4 hours elsewhere -- that Florida League of Women Voters President Deirdre Macnab called “unacceptable delays, worse than many third world countries.”
Voters in Florida also had to contend with the longest ballot in state history, a document that spans multiple pages. The new law also requires voters who move to a different county to obtain provisional ballots, which take longer to process.
The silver lining is that booming turnout has also contributed to lengthy lines. But Macnab noted that potential voters who had to work or care for their children were likely deterred by the long wait.
“Those people were really unfairly treated by these laws,” Macnab said.
That this election was decided without Florida is both a testament to the country’s shifting demographic map and a relief to anyone nervous about a disaster reminiscent of 2000. There is another parallel, though: The 2000 election was marred by revelations that a private firm tasked with removing ineligible felons from Florida’s voting rolls mistakenly disenfranchised legitimate voters.
Critics saw echoes of that in Florida Gov. Rick Scott’s push to purge ineligible noncitizens from the rolls. Sen. Ben Nelson, a Democrat, drew a comparison between the two in a letter to Scott and warned that “attempts to purge the voter roll so soon after signing one of the nation’s most controversial voting laws raises concern, especially among young and minority voters.”
County election supervisors balked when they received preliminary lists of ineligible voters that were riddled with errors. Legitimate voters identified as ineligible had become naturalized citizens, or were mistaken for someone else with a similar name. Florida suspended the purge until it got access to a federal database; ultimately, the number of names shrank from an ostensible 180,000 to around 200.
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/09/rick-scott-early-voting_n_2101566.html?1352483868
Rick Scott On Decision Not To Extend Early Voting: 'The Right Thing Happened'
The Huffington Post
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By Luke Johnson
Posted: 11/09/2012 12:55 pm EST Updated: 11/09/2012 3:30 pm EST
"Well I'm very comfortable that the right thing happened," he told WKMG Orlando while speaking with reporters on Thursday night. "We had 4.4 million people vote."
The WXMG reporter tried to follow up again and ask whether hours should have been extended, but a member of Scott's staff appeared to end the press conference. When Scott was asked again while walking with reporters, he repeated his answer.
A major reason for Florida's chaotic early voting process was that last year, the state's GOP-controlled legislature shortened early voting days from 14 to eight. Long lines were reported across the state, with one polling place closing as late as 1 a.m. Sunday morning. In a sudden move, the Miami-Dade elections department allowed voters to cast in-person absentee ballots on Sunday afternoon, but closed temporarily because it could not meet demand.
Former Gov. Charlie Crist, a Republican-turned-independent, accused Scott of "voter suppression" for refusing to extend early voting hours, and said Scott should have extended hours like he did in 2008 when he was governor.
Things weren't any better on Election Day, as people waited in lines for up to six hours in Miami-Dade County. Voting ended in the county at around 1:30 a.m. Wednesday.
As of Friday afternoon, Florida still has not been called for President Barack Obama or Mitt Romney, though Obama has a slight lead in votes. Romney conceded the state on Thursday.
Wednesday, November 7, 2012
Bill O'Relliy - - the takers won!!! They want stuff from "traditional" white voters
Karl Rowe vs Fox News
Karl Rove vs. Fox News
Forget Barack Obama and Mitt Romney. The most exciting matchup of the night was between Karl Rove and his employer, Fox News. A little after 11 p.m., Fox News and every other news outlet called the presidential race for Obama. Rove, the mastermind of George...Karl Rove vs. Michael Barone On Calling Ohio For Obama
Karl Rove
argues with Michael Barone and FOX News' decision, along with all major
news outlets, to call Ohio and the race for President Obama.
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What is the name for a guy like Karl Rowe? Does he live on a different planet?
search youtube: carl rove vs foxnews
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/07/fox-news-election-coverage_n_2085962.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUtneL407VA
Fox News, Karl Rove Argue With Fox About Whether Obama Won Ohio
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SaPcp4PGdU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQLV7nqD3CA
Fox News, Karl Rove Argue Over The Outcome In Ohio
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnauFCqf2jI
Comment about Carl Rove
Rachel Maddow slams the kardinal Rove for not accepting reality
Awakard moment: http://www.npr.org/blogs/itsallpolitics/2012/11/07/164586847/video-an-awkward-moment-as-karl-rove-objects-to-foxs-ohio-call?ft=1&f=1001
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJg3z5c93zU
VIDEO: An Awkward Moment, As Karl Rove Objects To Fox's Ohio Call
If you were plugged into the polls, odds are nothing really surprised you about last night.
That's why one of the most dramatic moments of night had to be when GOP strategist and major fundraiser Karl Rove threw a bomb in the middle of the Fox News broadcast.
Shortly after Fox News became one of the first to call Ohio for the president, Rove chastised its "decision desk."
"This is premature," Rove said, adding later that he'd be "very cautious about intruding in this process."
Here's the video; the awkwardness begins at around 3:51:
As NPR's David Folkenflik wrote earlier today,
Fox News anchor Megyn Kelly tried hard to convince Rove that the
network's analysts had found no plausible way for Romney to overcome his
deficit.
David reports:
That's why one of the most dramatic moments of night had to be when GOP strategist and major fundraiser Karl Rove threw a bomb in the middle of the Fox News broadcast.
Shortly after Fox News became one of the first to call Ohio for the president, Rove chastised its "decision desk."
"This is premature," Rove said, adding later that he'd be "very cautious about intruding in this process."
Here's the video; the awkwardness begins at around 3:51:
YouTube
David reports:
"Even as more results continued streaming in, Rove did it again. At 11:40 p.m., he was still at it — reciting county after county, "and then there are cats and dogs elsewhere that add up to another 120,000 votes." Kelly and Baier sought to provide a check but listened sagely to Rove, who is not just a chief political analyst for Fox and a columnist for its sibling newspaper, the Wall Street Journal, but also a leader of one of the major outside political committees spending tens of millions to defeat Obama and other Democrats.Of course, one of the big questions that will be answered in the coming months is what will become of Rove's outsized influence on GOP politics. Remember Rove is the man behind American Crossroads, the most influential and well-heeled super PAC on the Republican side. After his predictions didn't come true, will his big donors shy away from him? Or will he continue his decades of influence over the party?
"Having lost the argument — not to mention his call that predicted for Romney an edge over Obama in the electoral college of about 30 electoral college votes — Rove made clear that the president's victory carried little weight.
"'He has blown the last two years — he's played small ball,' Rove said around 12:40 a.m. Wednesday. 'This does not bode well for the future. ... He may have won the battle but lost the war.'"
---> but Obama win is better than 2004 Bush win!!!!!!!!!
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Fox News Announces Re-Election Win of President Barack Obama - 11/06/12
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHAHgXtE9SU
Fox News Election Coverage: Questions Turn From President Obama's Victory To 2nd Term Mandate (VIDEO)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/07/fox-news-election-coverage_n_2085962.html
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Other links:
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/11/07/andrew-sullivan-tells-stephen-colbert-karl-roves-head-just-exploded/
http://www.businessinsider.com/fox-news-ohio-2012-11
http://www.businessinsider.com/karl-roves-historically-colossal-waste-of-money-2012-11
http://www.businessinsider.com/fox-megan-kelly-on-karl-rove-projections-2012-11
http://americablog.com/2012/11/must-watch-video-karl-rove-melts-down-on-fox.html
http://foxnewsinsider.com/2012/11/06/fox-news-decision-desk-stands-by-call-that-obama-will-carry-ohio/
http://foxnewsinsider.com/2012/11/06/karl-rove-questions-ohio-call-for-obama-electoral-victory/
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/06/fox-news-argues-obama-ohio_n_2085817.html
http://video.msnbc.msn.com/now-with-alex-wagner/49728394/
Explanation by Carl: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1112/83500.html
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/11/06/karl_rove_vs_michael_barone_on_calling_election_for_obama.html
http://news.yahoo.com/despite-quibble-republican-election-guru-ohio-went-obama-100837202.html
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.... other interesting statements during election night
Bill O Reilly 'The White Establishment Is Now The Minority' Fox News Election Night 2012
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFcAzIWOHpU
R. Donahue (Don) Peebles on Varney & Co. Election Day 2012 Discussing the Important Issues
Friday, October 26, 2012
My prediction - Obama with at least 271
Below is the map based on president and approval polls in battleground states from:
http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2012-general-election-romney-vs-obama
map: http://www.pbs.org/newshour/vote2012/map/calc.html#states=lpGmplqGBlpGmqBlCp
Primary winners: http://www.pbs.org/newshour/vote2012/map/primary_winners.html
From here we can flip Nevada to Romney and Colorado to Obama
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Nate Silver has the same opinion: http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/10/26/oct-25-the-state-of-the-states/
http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2012-general-election-romney-vs-obama
map: http://www.pbs.org/newshour/vote2012/map/calc.html#states=lpGmplqGBlpGmqBlCp
Primary winners: http://www.pbs.org/newshour/vote2012/map/primary_winners.html
From here we can flip Nevada to Romney and Colorado to Obama
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Nate Silver has the same opinion: http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/10/26/oct-25-the-state-of-the-states/
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